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Postby GHETTOMESSIAH » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:52 pm
LOST FOUND MUSLIM LESSON #2 QUESTION 10 STATES:

WHO IS THAT MYSTERY GOD?

ELIJAH MUHAMMAD ANSWERED: There is not a mystery God. The Son of man has searched for that mystery God for trillions of years and was unable to find a mystery God. So they have agreed that the only God is the Son of man. So they lose no time searching for that that does not exist.

NOW STOP RIGHT THERE!!!! MY FIRST QUESTION IS.....IF HE (GOD) IS A MYSTERY, THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR? HOW DO YOU KNOW HE DOES NOT EXIST IF YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY HIM EVEN IF YOU SAW HIM? I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR MASTER FARD MUHAMMAD FOR TWENTY YEARS AND NEVER FOUND HIM...SO SHOULD I ARGUE THAT HE DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE I HAVE SEARCHED THE EARTH AND CAN NOT FIND HIM? YOU SEE HOW FALLACIOUS THAT ARGUMENT IS? ELIJAH MUHAMMAD SAID THAT ALLAH IS SELF CREATED. HE SAID THERE WAS A SPARK OF ELECTRICITY IN THE TRIPPLE BLACKNESS OF SPACE THAT BROUGHT ALLAH INTO EXISTENCE. WHO, OR WHAT CREATED THAT ELECTRICITY? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT SAME SPARK DIDN'T CREATE ANOTHER BEING WHO SELF CREATED HIMSELF PRIOR TO THAT? ELIJAH MUHAMMAD EVEN SAID THAT MASTER FARD MUHAMMAD DID NOT KNOW WHERE THAT ELECTRICITY CAME FROM. IT'S TIME TO UPGRADE THE TEACHINGS. WE ARE SMARTER NOW, AND WE NEED BETTER ANSWERS.
Postby GHETTOMESSIAH » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:55 am
MUSLIMS CAN NOT REFUTE THIS.
Postby ephraim » Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:34 am
So you have a punching bag with Elijah face on it?!! And what's with as the french say, “qui donne la chair de poule” : spooky talk lately? How do you reply to scientist that say, dark matter it is just one in a long list of groundless lies propagated within the conventional view of physics.

An Open Letter to the Scientific Community
cosmologystatement.org

(Published in New Scientist, May 22, 2004)

The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things that we have never observed-- inflation, dark matter and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory. In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and observation. It would, at the least, raise serious questions about the validity of the underlying theory.

But the big bang theory can't survive without these fudge factors. Without the hypothetical inflation field, the big bang does not predict the smooth, isotropic cosmic background radiation that is observed, because there would be no way for parts of the universe that are now more than a few degrees away in the sky to come to the same temperature and thus emit the same amount of microwave radiation.

Without some kind of dark matter, unlike any that we have observed on Earth despite 20 years of experiments, big-bang theory makes contradictory predictions for the density of matter in the universe. Inflation requires a density 20 times larger than that implied by big bang nucleosynthesis, the theory's explanation of the origin of the light elements. And without dark energy, the theory predicts that the universe is only about 8 billion years old, which is billions of years younger than the age of many stars in our galaxy.

What is more, the big bang theory can boast of no quantitative predictions that have subsequently been validated by observation. The successes claimed by the theory's supporters consist of its ability to retrospectively fit observations with a steadily increasing array of adjustable parameters, just as the old Earth-centered cosmology of Ptolemy needed layer upon layer of epicycles.

Yet the big bang is not the only framework available for understanding the history of the universe. Plasma cosmology and the steady-state model both hypothesize an evolving universe without beginning or end. These and other alternative approaches can also explain the basic phenomena of the cosmos, including the abundances of light elements, the generation of large-scale structure, the cosmic background radiation, and how the redshift of far-away galaxies increases with distance. They have even predicted new phenomena that were subsequently observed, something the big bang has failed to do.

Supporters of the big bang theory may retort that these theories do not explain every cosmological observation. But that is scarcely surprising, as their development has been severely hampered by a complete lack of funding. Indeed, such questions and alternatives cannot even now be freely discussed and examined. An open exchange of ideas is lacking in most mainstream conferences. Whereas Richard Feynman could say that "science is the culture of doubt", in cosmology today doubt and dissent are not tolerated, and young scientists learn to remain silent if they have something negative to say about the standard big bang model. Those who doubt the big bang fear that saying so will cost them their funding.

Even observations are now interpreted through this biased filter, judged right or wrong depending on whether or not they support the big bang. So discordant data on red shifts, lithium and helium abundances, and galaxy distribution, among other topics, are ignored or ridiculed. This reflects a growing dogmatic mindset that is alien to the spirit of free scientific inquiry.

Today, virtually all financial and experimental resources in cosmology are devoted to big bang studies. Funding comes from only a few sources, and all the peer-review committees that control them are dominated by supporters of the big bang. As a result, the dominance of the big bang within the field has become self-sustaining, irrespective of the scientific validity of the theory.

Giving support only to projects within the big bang framework undermines a fundamental element of the scientific method -- the constant testing of theory against observation. Such a restriction makes unbiased discussion and research impossible. To redress this, we urge those agencies that fund work in cosmology to set aside a significant fraction of their funding for investigations into alternative theories and observational contradictions of the big bang. To avoid bias, the peer review committee that allocates such funds could be composed of astronomers and physicists from outside the field of cosmology.

Allocating funding to investigations into the big bang's validity, and its alternatives, would allow the scientific process to determine our most accurate model of the history of the universe.
http://www.cosmologystatement.org/
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Worship is polytheism because worship demands duality which is shirk (polytheism) because it establishes multiplicity of being. Meaning me and Allah are not one.
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